Summary
The core message of this session was that “global from day one” is not a slogan but an operating design choice: founders must decide where value is created, where customers are served, and how teams and processes work across borders before complexity overwhelms them. The moderator framed the discussion as the inverse of a German company scaling abroad after domestic success: some ventures are international before they even have a conventional German headquarters. Larissa Schneider of Unframe AI and Philipp Kessler of TURN2X illustrated two very different versions of this pattern: enterprise AI software built across the U.S., Germany, and Israel, and renewable gas hardware produced where energy is cheapest but sold where demand and prices are higher.
Philipp explained that TURN2X initially looked at Germany, but high electricity prices pushed the team to evaluate Norway, Finland, Italy, Greece, and Spain. Spain became the production location because it offered some of the cheapest renewables in Europe, mainly due to solar. TURN2X produces “e methane,” described as electric methane made from electricity, in low-cost energy locations such as Spain and sells it in high-cost energy locations such as Germany. He emphasized that Europe’s existing gas grid—over 2,000,000 pipeline kilometers—can transport energy across borders and is a heavily overlooked asset for the energy transition and resilience.
Larissa described a different route into internationalization: Unframe AI was multinational from the start because its three cofounders were already in different markets. They founded a U.S. company, a German subsidiary for her, and an Israeli subsidiary for her cofounder. The split developed naturally: technical R&D talent in Tel Aviv, operations in Berlin, and go-to-market largely in the U.S. She acknowledged that investors and advisors often warned that distributed cofounding teams would not work, especially if conflict arose, but the founders had worked together before in cybersecurity and relied on a long-standing, trustful relationship. Her fundraising lesson was blunt: the team did not need everyone to agree; they only needed one investor willing to join a “crazy ride.”
The conversation then turned to the hard limits of going international too early. Philipp said permits, local lawyers, incorporation rules, and region-specific construction law added major complexity, so TURN2X deliberately narrowed its focus after surveying many markets. The company doubled down on Spain, built one of the largest commercial e-methane plants there, and only later reopened discussions about additional countries. He supported the idea of an EU Inc. or “twenty eighth regime” because one cross-European regime would reduce the need to hire lawyers across jurisdictions. Larissa’s practical advice was to over-document because distributed teams cannot rely on informal coffee-room conversations, bring people together every six months, and hire first-country openers who are true builders rather than people dependent on large-company support structures.
Key Topics
5 key topics from Philipp Kessler, Larissa Schneider and Zackes Brustik at Bits & Pretzels 2026 | Founders Festival in Munich. Thicker branches were mentioned more often in the talk.
Key Takeaways
- Focus on one international market before adding more complexity.
- Document decisions instead of relying on informal office conversations.
- Hire market openers who can build without large-company support.
- Use location strengths separately for production, operations, and sales.
- Choose investors comfortable with unconventional international company design.
“You know, you really only need one to say yes, right? Don't need to convince everyone.”
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